Sixteen years after thrusting her family into the spotlight with their breakthrough E! reality series Keeping Up With the Kardashians, Kris Jenner admits to having regrets.

Towards the end of this week’s new episode of Hulu’s The Kardashians – entitled The Tension is Brewing – Kris Jenner spoke with Kim Kardashian about how she thinks she may have ‘cursed’ their family by bringing the spotlight to them.

Jenner – who recently made headlines for her excitement over her 13th grandchild from Kourtney Kardashian and Travis Barker – was seen arriving at Kim’s house, just ahead of her 42nd birthday.

Kris revealed in confession, ‘Kim is going to be 42, but what I think about today is when I was 42, and where was I when I was 42, and honestly, that seems like yesterday.’

Kris tells Kim, ‘You’re gonna be 42. When I was 42, I just had a baby at 41. Isn’t that crazy?’

Kim agrees that it was, ‘crazy,’ adding, ‘I think I’m done,’ with having more kids, as Kris adds, ‘You have four kids, probably. I mean, I had six, but I was a stay-at-home mom and took that job really seriously.’
Kris adds, ‘Like I was so proud of you guys. I still am today. I mean, I couldn’t be more proud. I think we’re so lucky. When I was growing up, and even in the 80s when you guys were born and little kids, nobody really had a family, that I knew, that all lived together in the same neighborhood, and I think that’s what we’re so blessed with.

The ability to communicate with each other, the ability to love each other as hard as we do, and that’s what makes it so special. But at the same time, we’ve built this amazing life for ourselves and sometimes I feel like it can be a curse.’

Kris continues, ‘Sometimes I feel like I’ve helped build something that can also be a burden. The haters, they’re so brutal sometimes, and I feel bad that I’ve brought this element to our lives, and it’s hard, it’s a struggle.’

Kim says, ‘You shouldn’t feel that way,’ though Kris insists, ‘It weighs heavy on my heart a lot. Now sometimes I just feel guilty about the other side of the coin. That we’ve created this life, not only a big responsibility, but it can also be very negative,’ as Kim agrees, ‘it can be really negative.’

‘I think that this life that we live, as beautiful as it is, we get blamed for everything. Everything is our fault,’ Kris says.

Kim adds, ‘Khloe is responsible for Tristan cheating and having a baby,’ as Kris adds, ‘Or if he lost a basketball game.’

‘And I feel so bad for you guys that you have to bear that on certain days, like we sometimes experience,’ Kris adds.

Kim adds in confession, ‘I get where my mom is coming from, because this past year has been really wild for our family, but all of this is part of our journey. God makes no mistakes. All of this is happening for us for the lessons that we have to learn here on this planet.’

Done: Kim agrees that it was, ‘crazy,’ adding, ‘I think I’m done,’ with having more kids, as Kris adds, ‘You have four kids, probably. I mean, I had six, but I was a stay-at-home mom and took that job really seriously’

Proud: Kris adds, ‘Like I was so proud of you guys. I still am today. I mean, I couldn’t be more proud. I think we’re so lucky. When I was growing up, and even in the 80s when you guys were born and little kids, nobody really had a family, that I knew, that all lived together in the same neighborhood, and I think that’s what we’re so blessed with.

The ability to communicate with each other, the ability to love each other as hard as we do, and that’s what makes it so special. But at the same time, we’ve built this amazing life for ourselves and sometimes I feel like it can be a curse’

Build: Kris continues, ‘Sometimes I feel like I’ve helped build something that can also be a burden. The haters, they’re so brutal sometimes, and I feel bad that I’ve brought this element to our lives, and it’s hard, it’s a struggle’

Kris asks if she remembers when she was, ‘robbed in Paris and you were tied up and thrown into a bathtub and the trauma of that and I remember you said, “Thank God it happened to me, because if it happened to anyone else they wouldn’t have been able to survive, and it wouldn’t happen the same way.” But you kind of handle every situation like that.’

Kim added, ‘But when it was done, I was just like, “Thank God this was me and not one of my sisters, because it would like f**k them up for life.’

Kris added in confession, ‘When my kids are in pain, I’m in pain. When my kids hurt, I hurt, and I never know what I’m gonna wake up to. It could be the greatest day in the world and just feeling so blessed to be alive. Or it could be a little dark, and there could be things going on that we can’t control.’

Kris tells Kim, ‘I don’t know anyone who could have handled what you did. I’m so proud of you every single day for the way you live your life. I wish that everyone knew how beautiful and delicious your heart was and they would never say one thing about you.’

Kim thanks her mother, adding, ‘But you can’t live in this guilt like I wish I didn’t help all my kids get famous. You just can’t live like that. This is also our journeys and we wanted this and you just helped us fulfill our dreams and like what our potential was, you know.

Life is about hardships and how you get through them. And we know how to get through them. That’s the one thing we do. I think, the Kardashians, like, we don’t stoop to anyone’s level, and we get through things, and we get through them together. Thank God we have each other. Thank God we have that support system. That is what I base a lot of my sanity on.’

Kris says it’s their, ‘saving grace that we get to live life with one another, and that’s a gift and I hope you appreciate that gift,’ and Kim says she does.

This isn’t the first time the family has spoken about how their lives might be different had they not become reality stars.

During the third episode, Scott Disick asks Kim what her, ‘dream day’ would be if she could go out and no one knew who she was, and Kim says, ‘Go on Melrose, go down Venice Beach, just like rollerblade. Last time I was there I went rollerblading down Venice Beach.’

Remember: Kris asks if she remembers when she was, ‘robbed in Paris and you were tied up and thrown into a bathtub and the trauma of that and I remember you said, “Thank God it happened to me, because if it happened to anyone else they wouldn’t have been able to survive, and it wouldn’t happen the same way.” But you kind of handle every situation like that’

Pain: Kris added in confession, ‘When my kids are in pain, I’m in pain. When my kids hurt, I hurt, and I never know what I’m gonna wake up to. It could be the greatest day in the world and just feeling so blessed to be alive. Or it could be a little dark, and there could be things going on that we can’t control’

Guilt: Kim thanks her mother, adding, ‘But you can’t live in this guilt like I wish I didn’t help all my kids get famous.

You just can’t live like that. This is also our journeys and we wanted this and you just helped us fulfill our dreams and like what our potential was, you know.

Life is about hardships and how you get through them. And we know how to get through them. That’s the one thing we do. I think, the Kardashians, like, we don’t stoop to anyone’s level, and we get through things, and we get through them together.

Thank God we have each other. Thank God we have that support system. That is what I base a lot of my sanity on’

Scott asks what she misses ‘the most’ pre-fame, as Kim insists, ‘I don’t want to be that girl who is like, I miss this and I miss this. I also don’t want to live in like the past. I just like wonder what life would be like now if we didn’t take that road. We definitely wouldn’t be living here.’

Scott says they should do an episode where they ‘all go back to where we would be, probably have a bunch of Dash stores.’

Kim insists she would, ‘still be working at like Macy’s,’ but Scott insists, ‘No you would not,’ though Kim says she, ‘loved it.’

Scott says she was always, ‘such an entrepreneur even as a kid, you were selling the boots and you were hustling all day. You would have built some sort of franchise or business.’

Kim adds her mom has been ‘sad’ about ‘did I create them to get to this level…’ and that she can ‘handle it all, even the bad stuff.’

Scott asks if she’s ever been really down, ever, but she says she hasn’t, adding, ‘what’s so crazy is when my dad died, I remember like automatically going, ‘OK, I’m going to speak at the funeral.’ This is happening. Like, my dad like left us and now we have to finally grow up and like we have to figure it out.’